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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#1
I was wondering if there will be a version of MX-15 that is not only targeted at beginners, but more at advanced users.
A bit like the classical Antix, with all the cli programmes. Most problematic of all is that Vi is missing, otherwise MX-15 would be great as a rescue system.
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#2
fladd wrote:I was wondering if there will be a version of MX-15 that is not only targeted at beginners, but more at advanced users.
A bit like the classical Antix, with all the cli programmes. Most problematic of all is that Vi is missing, otherwise MX-15 would be great as a rescue system.
Doubtful that one will be make by the dev team.

However...

You can add whatever apps (including antix cli apps) in MX, then run mx-snapshot to produce a new iso for your own use. I run a couple of custom snapshot iso's with a different kernel to support hardware that isn't supported in MX by default, as well as a version for the chromebook with some extra apps installed and custom keyboard settings. Its really easy to do, and you get what you want. mx-snapshot isn't just for backups...

If you don't want to screw up your installed system, run a clean setup in virtualbox, then run the snapshot. Or you can use a liveUSB to do everything, although I prefer snapshot for purpose-built isos.
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#3
Another possibility might be to develop a list for a batch of cli packages for one-click install with Package Installer. Think there would be any point to that?
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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#4
Thanks for the answers!
I am back to using Antix 15 for now, but will consider a snapshot iso in the future.
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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#5
I am a bit confused. I read several times that a snapshot iso will not have the graphical installer included. Yet, when I just downloaded the CORE snapshot of March, the GUI installer was on the desktop.
Does this mean that I can use MX-snapshot to create a normal iso that users can simply install just like the original MX-15 iso? If so, how does this differ from remastering?
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#6
Mx snapshot images now include the installer.
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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#7
So if install a couple of programmes, change the desktop background and take a snapshot, then give this iso to a user, then they can use and install it the same way than the original iso? they don't have to do anything different during installing?
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#8
fladd wrote:So if install a couple of programmes, change the desktop background and take a snapshot, then give this iso to a user, then they can use and install it the same way than the original iso? they don't have to do anything different during installing?
changes to the desktop will not be saved unless you make a"personal" snapshot (which is an option in the snapshot apps). however, this will also preserve your user account.

running the snapshot option for redistribution does not preserve the user account, and hence settings that are stored in the home folder, like the desktop wallpaper. However, you can sync back the ~/.config/xfce4 directory back to / etc/skel/.config/xfce4, and then they will be used at the creation of the new user during install.

apps however will be preserved with either option.

installing is pretty much the same, except when installing a personal snaphot, the user will not be prompted to create a user account, since one already exists.
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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#9
I understand. I am wondering though, how the CORE snapshot managed to change the panel orientation in the live system, if these things (in home folder) are not copied...any idea how this was done?
anticapitalista
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Site Admin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
#10
They were probably copied from the home folder to etc/skel
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#11
Most problematic of all is that Vi is missing, otherwise MX-15 would be great as a rescue system.
You're right that vi is not installed by default, but vim is b/c it is"an extended version of the vi editor, with many additional features designed to be helpful in editing program source code" (Wikipedia).
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fladd
Joined: 09 Apr 2015
#12
Jerry wrote:
Most problematic of all is that Vi is missing, otherwise MX-15 would be great as a rescue system.
You're right that vi is not installed by default, but vim is b/c it is"an extended version of the vi editor, with many additional features designed to be helpful in editing program source code" (Wikipedia).
Vim is also not installed on the ISO (it is available in the repos though, of course). Typing"vi" or"vim" in the terminal does nothing unfortunately.
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dolphin_oracle
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
#13
V8m is installed in antix 15 main editions but you are right it not in MX editions.
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rust collector
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
#14
Try"busybox vi" if you really need vi?
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#15
Sorry about vim in MX, eyes must have been crossed.