anticapitalista
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#1
I don't have a wireless connection, so the more feedback from those that do, the better.

1. Ok, simply, what do you use to configure your wireless and why?

antiX presently comes with 3 apps to configure wireless.

Mnetwork
ceni
wicd

2. Any one tried rutilt? Comments.

3. If you upgrade ceni (either by enabling the sidux repo or better if you don't use sidux sources, via smxi under install apps, somewhere you can get the latest ceni) you'll get more options than the one used presently in antiX. How does it work? Comments.

TIA

Edit: I made a mistake. At the moment, to get the latest ceni, you have to enable the sidux repos.
The smxi script has an older version. I have asked h2 (the maintainer of smxi) to update the script to allow for the latest ceni to be installed.
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plvera
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
#2
I used wicd for no particular reason other than it seems to work. It autodetects the network fine, but it does not autoconnect, so that's a minor problem that I can live with.

I don't know what rutilt is. Is it better than wicd? I would be interested in trying it out.

Pedro
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eriefisher
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
#3
I use wicd at home and it works perfectly. I have not tried it on the road though and my home network is open I have not tried encryption either.

Mnetwork has worked flawlessly on every wired connection I tried but wireless has been touch and go.

What version of ceni are you referring to? I have tried it and it worked no problem. I have version 2.3.
anticapitalista
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#4
erie, ceni version 2.3 is the latest and the one I want people to test. antiX-M7.5 has a much older version.
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eriefisher
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
#5
I just tried to open ceni via the cc and the transparency is not working. the background is"stuck" to it and I can't read it. I switched the command to roxterm and it works fine.

I will see how it work out in the next few days.
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plvera
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
#6
I tried upgrading ceni from 1.3 (curent) to 2.0, the latest version I could see using synaptic and I was not able to.

I got the following msg

W: Failed to fetch
========= SCRAPER REMOVED AN EMBEDDED LINK HERE ===========
url was:"http://sidux.com/debian/pool/main/c/ceni/ceni_2.0_all.deb"
linktext was:"http://sidux.com/debian/pool/main/c/cen ... .0_all.deb"
====================================
" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false
404 Not Found

How do I upgrade ceni to 2.3 to test?

Pedro
anticapitalista
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#7
You have to enable the sidux repo. You can do so in synaptic. Settings/Repositories.

I made a mistake. At the moment, to get the latest ceni, you have to enable the sidux repos.
The smxi script has an older version. I have asked h2 (the maintainer of smxi) to update the script to allow for the latest ceni to be installed.
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plvera
Joined: 11 Oct 2008
#8
Hrm... I do have a sidux repository enabled. At least the one that showed up on the list.However, the upgrade to 2.0 still does not work.

Am I supposed to add other sidux repositories?
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oldhoghead
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
#9
I use wicd on my laptop, works great at home with wpa encryption, works great on the road, once you have logged in say at a motel, the next time I am there, wicd logs me on automagically. If I am at a new wifi location all available networks will show up, and it is just a matter of choosing the one you want, provided you are authorized to log on.

It is one of the most reliable wireless tools I have ever used. I also have M7 installed on the same laptop, and networkmanager gives frequent disconnects, whereas wicd is rock solid, if the signal is modulating from a strong to weak signal, wicd seems to tolerate and maintain the connection, network manager will disconnect and reconnect.

I have only played with ceni, so am not that familiar with it.

cheers
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rich_c
Joined: 21 Oct 2008
#10
I've used Mnetwork and wicd now. Both work but the differences are fairly obvious! with Mnetwork you need to know what's available through other means whereas wicd shows what's out there. I did try wifi-radar at one point in the past but that was nowhere near as good as wicd.
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OU812
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
#11
I have used rutilt, wicd, ceni, and mnetwork in previous versions of antix and mepis. Wicd, ceni, and rutilt were the most reliable. In order of friendliness: wicd, rutilt, ceni, mnetwork. Mnetwork comes in last since you have use the cli to find available networks. It also drops connections frequently - so much so that I had to stop using mepis to download from my music service.

I have a new laptop and don't want to install antix yet as it has an intel wireless card that does not seem supported by antix at the moment. I think I can install an intel driver from their website, but I believe that I have read that newer linux kernels should have support for this card.

john
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#12
I agree with your assessment, except I have never found the high rate of dropping. Now that we have the code for mnetwork, we can at least get scanning capacity in, and Marcos and I have started work (he does all the coding, of course) on redoing the app for M8.
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mariel77
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
#13
I tried mnetwork, wicd, ceni, and rutilt when I newly installed antiX 7.5.

mnetwork - I could never tell which connection to use, and then I still wanted to scan for available networks. Since I know my connection now, I could probably connect using it, but I like to scan for what's available because I use wireless only in coffee shops or at meetings, not at home.

wicd - It did not work for me at all when I first installed antiX7.5; it wouldn't connect or scan. This was several months ago, and I know there have been fixes since then, but I haven't upgraded, or tried it since then. I just needed something that worked.

ceni - This scanned and connected with both wired and wireless connections. I do recommend that we put a name for it in CC next time, so people know it can do both. I prefer it for when I use a wired connection and not wireless; I am not sure why though.

rutilt - This just worked for me when I first set up wireless in antiX 7.01, when I didn't at all know what I was doing. So I installed it again when wicd didn't work for me. I like it because it scans and makes the connection, and it's easy for me to choose the network I want to use.
pjohnson
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pjohnson
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
#14
I tried using ceni and wicd but neither worked for me. I'm not sure if I tried mnetwork or not. Ceni wouldn't connect and wicd just locked my machine up. I now use WiFi-Radar which works fine but I have to reconnect to my wireless network every time I start the machine up. I think rutilt sounds like I should definitely try.
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Jerry
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
#15
I use wireless all the time with antiX 7.5, both home and travelling, on my laptop with its bcm4306 chipset. The order and approximate frequency of the clients I use:
  • Wicd (75%)
  • Ceni (10%)
  • mnetwork (20%
  • command-line apps (5%)
Warren once mentioned to me in an email that the functionality of any client depends on the complex interactions among the client, the chipset, the AP, and the CPU.