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koolstofje
Joined: 07 Nov 2015
#16
Conkeror ? ))
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015

12 Jan 2017, 14:14 #17

Aleph wrote:Yes, my system is full updated.
About power cycling I don't know, but my system was working fine with Antix15 just before change the HDD.
All it takes is a slight voltage drop to latch up a router, just reach in back of the router, unplug the power, wait 30 seconds, plug the power back in.
When router is back up, test to see if you can get online.

Fought that enough and got a UPS for my modem and router.
EXAMPLE:

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Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#18
Ok, sorry for my english.

I unpluged the router 30 seconds: Not solution...
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#19
Is relevant this info?

usr /local/bin/BroadcomStartup

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#!/bin/bash

version="BroadcomStartup-1.3 (Apr. 30, 2016)"

# Check that user is root.
[ $(id -u) -eq 0 ] || { echo -e $"\n\t You need to be root!\n" ; exit 1 ; }

show_help () {
    printf"$help_text"
    exit 0
}

show_version () {
    printf"\n$version\n\n"
    exit 0
}

help_text="
    Usage: `basename $0 | cut -f1 -d_`

    The `basename $0 | cut -f1 -d_` script removes the b43, b43legacy and b44 blacklist entries
    for Broadcom devices known not to work with the broadcom-sta wl module.

    With the exception of the --help and --version options, the `basename $0 | cut -f1 -d_`
    script takes no arguments.
    valid options:

        -h, --help    show this help text

        -v, --version    display the version information

"

while [[ $1 == -* ]]; do
    case"$1" in

        -h|--help)
            show_help ;;

        -v|--version)
                        show_version ;;

        *)
            printf"\t invalid option: $1 \n\n"
            printf"\t Try:  $0 -h for full help. \n\n"
            exit 1 ;;
    esac
done

b43Unblacklist()
{
if [ -f /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf ]; then
  sed -i 's/blacklist b43$/#blacklist b43/;s/blacklist bcma/#blacklist bcma/;s/blacklist ssb/#blacklist ssb/' /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
  sed -i -e"\$ablacklist wl" /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf

  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager stop
  modprobe -r wl cfg80211
  modprobe b43
  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager start
  sleep 2  #(small delay and the networks show up)
  pkill wpa_supplicant

fi
}

b43legacyUnblacklist()
{
if [ -f /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf ]; then
  sed -i 's/blacklist b43legacy$/#blacklist b43legacy/;s/blacklist ssb/#blacklist ssb/' /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
  sed -i -e"\$ablacklist wl" /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf

  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager stop
  modprobe -r wl cfg80211
  modprobe b43legacy
  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager start
  sleep 2  #(small delay and the networks show up)
  pkill wpa_supplicant

fi
}
 
b44Unblacklist()
{
if [ -f /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf ]; then
  sed -i 's/blacklist b44$/#blacklist b44/;s/blacklist ssb/#blacklist ssb/' /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf
  sed -i -e"\$ablacklist wl" /etc/modprobe.d/broadcom-sta-dkms.conf

  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager stop

  modprobe b44
  [ -x /etc/init.d/network-manager ] && service network-manager start
  sleep 2  #(small delay and the networks show up)
  pkill wpa_supplicant

fi
}

if [ -e /etc/bcm-ckd ]; then
  :

else

  touch /etc/bcm-ckd

  #test to see if a broadcom wireless internet device is present
  lspci -n | grep -E -q '^[^[:space:]]+\.0[[:space:]]+(0280)+(:)+[[:space:]]+(14e4)'
  if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
    case $(lspci -n | grep -E '^[^[:space:]]+\.0[[:space:]]+(0280)+(:)+[[:space:]]+(14e4)' | grep -Eio '[a-f0-9]{4}:[a-f0-9]{4}' | grep -Eio [a-f0-9]{4}$ | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]') in

      4307|4318|4319|4321|4322|4350|43a9|43aa|a8d6|a8db) b43Unblacklist
                                                         ;;

                                         4311|4312|4328) b43Unblacklist
                                                         ;;

                                         4301|4306|4325) b43legacyUnblacklist
                                                         ;;

                                                   4320) #test to see if BCM4306/2 or BCM4306/3

                                                         #assuming that the first line of the lspci -vnn report for a BCM4306/2 device ends with"(rev 02)", can someone verify?
                                                         lspci -vnn -d 14e4:4320 | head -n1 | cut -f2- -d] | cut -c3- | grep -q BCM4306.*"(rev 02)$"
                                                         if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
                                                           b43legacyUnblacklist
                                                         fi

                                                         #assuming that the first line of the lspci -vnn report for a BCM4306/3 device ends with"(rev 03)", can someone verify?
                                                         lspci -vnn -d 14e4:4320 | head -n1 | cut -f2- -d] | cut -c3- | grep -q BCM4306.*"(rev 03)$"
                                                         if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
                                                           b43Unblacklist
                                                         fi
                                                         ;;

                                                   4324) #test to see if BCM4306 or BCM4306/6

                                                         #assuming that the first line of the lspci -vnn report for a BCM4306 device ends with"[14e4:4324]", can someone verify?
                                                         lspci -vnn -d 14e4:4324 | head -n1 | cut -f2- -d] | cut -c3- | grep -q BCM4306.*"\[14e4:4324\]$"
                                                         if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
                                                           b43legacyUnblacklist
                                                         fi

                                                         #assuming that the first line of the lspci -vnn report for a BCM4306/6 device ends with"(rev 06)", can someone verify?
                                                         lspci -vnn -d 14e4:4324 | head -n1 | cut -f2- -d] | cut -c3- | grep -q BCM4306.*"(rev 06)$"
                                                         if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
                                                           b43Unblacklist
                                                         fi
                                                         ;;

                                                      *) #misc type of broadcom device that we don't know what to do with, so do nothing
                                                         :
                                                         ;;
    esac
  else
    #broadcom wireless device not found, so do nothing
    :
  fi
  #test to see if a broadcom wired internet device is present
  lspci -n | grep -E -q '^[^[:space:]]+\.0[[:space:]]+(0200)+(:)+[[:space:]]+(14e4)'
  if ["$?" -eq 0 ]; then
    case $(lspci -n | grep -E '^[^[:space:]]+\.0[[:space:]]+(0200)+(:)+[[:space:]]+(14e4)' | grep -Eio '[a-f0-9]{4}:[a-f0-9]{4}' | grep -Eio [a-f0-9]{4}$ | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]') in

                                         170c|4401|4402) b44Unblacklist
                                                         ;;

                                                      *) #misc type of broadcom wired internet device that we don't know what to do with, so do nothing
                                                         :
                                                         ;;
    esac
  else
    #broadcom wired internet device not found, so do nothing
    :
  fi

fi
etc /network/interfaces

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# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug eth3
iface eth3 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug eth4
iface eth4 inet dhcp

allow-hotplug eth5
iface eth5 inet dhcp
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#20
Aleph wrote:Maybe the kernel?
I was right. __{{emoticon}}__

I installed a new kernel, the 4.8.10 and the wifi was up when boot!

Now I will continue looking for a 2Gb RAM card and the best browser. The"AntiX browser"... __{{emoticon}}__

For the momment with this HDD the boot is faster than before!! 33 seconds with wifi up!!
Posts: 521
Shay
Joined: 20 Apr 2015
#21
Unusual, but glad it worked for you.
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#22
Shay wrote:Unusual, but glad it worked for you.
Yes, weird, I don't know what was the problem really but with the 4.8.10 kernel is working.

Thank you very much for your help Shay!!
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#23
skidoo wrote:Missing from your list of alternatives: Otter browser, and Seamonkey
MX Linux has deb packages for both of these.

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If you decide to test drive these, please post back to let others know whether they are low-resource friendly.
I tried Seamonkey before, I think Semonkey is almost Firfox.

Otter is not at the Antix repositories.
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Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#24
koolstofje wrote:Conkeror ? ))
- I tried Conkeror but it seems not very light weight, maybe I am wrong.

---------------

- I also tried Netsurf, It seems light weight but with many problems displaying some web pages.

- Midori: it uses very low RAM, however it has also problems displaying some webs.

- Opera: everything was ok. Fast, without problems, however use a lot of RAM.
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Rademes
Joined: 26 Dec 2016
#25
When I was actively testing Q4OS Linux, similar question about fast browser was asked on Q4OS forum. One very experienced community member advised Slimjet
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I have tested it not for a long time, because my favourite browser is Firefox, and Slimjet is built on top of the Chromium, but it is much more functional than original Chromium browser. Haven't tested it on antiX though.
Posts: 243
Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#26
Rademes wrote:When I was actively testing Q4OS Linux, similar question about fast browser was asked on Q4OS forum. One very experienced community member advised Slimjet
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I have tested it not for a long time, because my favourite browser is Firefox, and Slimjet is built on top of the Chromium, but it is much more functional than original Chromium browser. Haven't tested it on antiX though.
Slimjet seems to be very very fast but not so lightweight, maybe I am wrong... And it is not in our repos.

For the momment the winner for me is Qupzilla.

Palemoon is also lightweight and now is working fine in AntiX, however Qupzilla is the best option for me on this laptop. Nothing better, I think.

Midori is not on the repos.

More suggestions?

We have AntiX, the best OS for old machines, but we have not a AntiX like web browser unfortunately... __{{emoticon}}__
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#27
QtWeb would be another to try.

I've tried Midori a number of times but it seemed to crash a lot. A year ago was the last time I tried it.
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Rademes
Joined: 26 Dec 2016
#28
SRWare Iron is positioned as very secure browser without any user activity tracking and spying stuff.

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Aleph
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
#29
thriftee wrote:QtWeb would be another to try.

I've tried Midori a number of times but it seemed to crash a lot. A year ago was the last time I tried it.
Yes, QTWeb is lightweight, I tried it yesterday. You don't have to install it is portable. However in the same way than Qupzilla and Palemoon, not better, I think.
Rademes wrote:SRWare Iron is positioned as very secure browser without any user activity tracking and spying stuff.
<a class="vglnk" href="http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php" rel="nofollow"><span>http</span><span>://</span><span>www</span><span>.</span><span>srware</span><span>.</span><span>net</span><span>/</span><span>en</span><span>/</span><span>software</span><span>_</span><span>srware</span><span>_</span><span>iron</span><span>.</span><span>php</span></a>
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Sound interesting, I installed SRWare Iron yesterday. However it is a lot heavy...
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thriftee
Joined: 27 Feb 2009
#30
Yes, I agree that I didn't notice much difference memory wise once I had a lot of browser tabs going, the memory used was similar with QTWeb and Firefox. I tried Qupzilla before with similar results.

I tried Otter yesterday and it was a complete waste of time because it requires a 64 bit OS which I'm not running. I still have a few 32 bit only machines, so maybe its time to give up on them, and switch all to 64 bit. But I hate to change everything again.

Dillo is much crisper and uses a fraction of the memory, but it doesn't work for more complex sites. At one point I thought the solution was to use Dillo for the simpler sites and use one of the bigger ones for the others, but it doesn't seem to work well doing that because it forces me to choose for each site which browser to use, etc. Unfortunately the sites seem to get more and more complex and don't seem to care what resources users need to run them, as they test with the big browsers, not lightweight ones like Dillo.